From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri(at)2ndquadrant(dot)fr>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>, Gurjeet Singh <singh(dot)gurjeet(at)gmail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Proof of concept: standalone backend with full FE/BE protocol |
Date: | 2013-11-19 15:10:33 |
Message-ID: | 8759.1384873833@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> Not enough. This feature is clearly being suggested as a way to offer
>> Postgres in embedded mode for users by a back door. Doing that forces
>> us to turn off many of the server's features and we will take a huge
>> step backwards in features, testing, maintainability of code and
>> wasted community time.
> That's not clear to me at all. IIRC, the original idea was Tom's, and
> the idea is to make it possible to have, for example, a psql session
> connected to a standalone database, which can't be done right now. I
> don't use standalone mode much, but when I do, I'd sure like to have
> the psql interface rather than the existing standalone mode interface.
pg_dump from a standalone backend seems like another core use case.
That's not just more convenience, it's functionality you just don't
have right now.
I think that it might someday be interesting to allow a full server to be
started on-demand in this way. But the patch as proposed is not that,
it's just a nicer interface to the existing standalone mode.
regards, tom lane
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