From: | "A(dot)M(dot)" <agentm(at)themactionfaction(dot)com> |
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To: | PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: O_DSYNC broken on MacOS X? |
Date: | 2010-10-07 17:19:33 |
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On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> Robert Haas wrote:
>>> Proposed doc patch attached.
>>
>> Looks accurate to me. I like the additional linking to the Reliability page
>> you put in there too. Heavily referencing that important page from related
>> areas is a good thing, particularly now that it's got a lot more details
>> than it used to.
>
> Cool, thanks for the fast review. I suspect there are more details
> that could stand to be added to the WAL reliability page as well, but
> I don't know what they are so I can't add them.
>
> I still have the feeling that we have not put quite a large enough
> red, blinking light around this issue, but I don't have a concrete
> suggestion.
I think the general problem is that there is no simple way to verify that a PostgreSQL commit is pushing the bits to persistent storage. It would be helpful if there were a platform-specific, volume-specific tool to deduce this. Currently, there is no warning light that goes on when commits are not persistent.
On Linux, a tool could check filesystem parameters, hdparm (if relevant), and hard drive and controller specs (possibly against a blacklist of known liars).
Perhaps a simpler tool could run a basic fsyncs-per-second test and prompt the DBA to check that the numbers are within the realm of possibility.
How else can a DBA today ensure that a commit is a commit?
Cheers,
M
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