Re: New "function tables" in V13 documentation

From: Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
To: "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Kevin Brannen <KBrannen(at)efji(dot)com>, "pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: New "function tables" in V13 documentation
Date: 2020-11-15 17:10:28
Message-ID: 53ff539f-baf3-6ef3-5c50-c29f55b16d42@aklaver.com
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On 11/15/20 9:00 AM, David G. Johnston wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 9:39 AM Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com
> <mailto:adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>> wrote:
>
> On 11/14/20 8:24 PM, David G. Johnston wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 1:48 PM Adrian Klaver
> <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com <mailto:adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
> > <mailto:adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com
> <mailto:adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>>> wrote:
> >
> >     Which is an indication that for changes of this scope it would be
> >     prudent to create a mock up and have end users see and comment on
> >     before
> >     rolling them out.
> >
> >
> > There were mockups and people did provide comments.  Do you have any
>
> Where were they announced and when?
>
>
> Starting back in February.
>
> https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/9326.1581457869@sss.pgh.pa.us
> <https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/9326.1581457869@sss.pgh.pa.us>
>
> The first commit was applied in April.
>
>
> > concrete suggestions on what should have been done, or done
> differently?
>
> Yes my concrete suggestion was a return to previous layout.
>
>
> I am referring to the process by which the idea to change the
> documentation layout was made public so people could review it (see above).
>
> In hindsight it could have been handled better.  Waiting longer at
> different points and making pronouncements on -announce to solicit
> feedback from people who don't follow -docs.  That doesn't change the

Yes and at least one post to --general. It would have motivated me to
look at the new docs earlier.

> fact that we need to move forward with a new patch to "fix" things.  If
> the agreement is that fix looks a lot like the old format then so be
> it.  But getting there by reverting doesn't seem doable.

The method does not matter to me the layout does.

>
> David J.

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