Historical trivia (was Re: First Major Open Source Database)

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart(at)alumni(dot)caltech(dot)edu>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgreSQL(dot)org
Subject: Historical trivia (was Re: First Major Open Source Database)
Date: 2000-01-08 05:37:30
Message-ID: 5352.947309850@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Thomas Lockhart <lockhart(at)alumni(dot)caltech(dot)edu> writes:
>> It did not use any Ingres code, as told to me by Jolly, I think. My
>> book has Ingres mentioned as an "ancestor" of Postgres.

> I suppose we could have figured this out ourselves, since Postgres was
> originally written in Lisp, and afaik Ingres was always C or somesuch
> traditional compiled-only code. We still see evidence of this in our
> code tree with the way lists and parser nodes are handled.

It's clear from both the comments and remnants of coding conventions
that the planner/optimizer was originally Lisp code, and was hand-
translated to C at some point in the dim mists of prehistory (early
1990s, possibly ;-)). That Lisp heritage is responsible for some of
the better things about the code, and also some of the worse things.

But I'm not sure I believe that *all* of the code was originally
Lisp. I've never heard of a Lisp interface for yacc-generated
parsers, for example. The parts of the executor I've looked at
don't seem nearly as Lispy as the parser/planner/optimizer, either.
So it seems possible that parts of Postgres were written afresh in
Lisp while other parts were lifted from an older C implementation.

</idle speculation>

Does anyone here still recall the origins of Postgres? I'm curious
to know more about the history of this beast.

regards, tom lane

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