Re: Pgday italy

From: Boriss Mejias <bmejias(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>
To: pgsql-women(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Pgday italy
Date: 2019-03-25 21:48:29
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gülçin yıldırım wrote on 25.03.19 16:44:
> Since there is no objection and Ilaria is willing to do the booth duty (and her
> travel expenses are covered) we can give the first free ticket to her.
>
> I saw one more women interested in the free tickets on Twitter. Has she
> contacted us yet? Is she willing to help out Ilaria and Boriss at the booth?

Just to clarify, I'm not going to PgDay Italy. Although I have been thinking
about ideas for the flyers and I have two:

1. Based on the lightning talk given by Renee and Louise at Nordic PgDay, there
could be a flyer with a list of things to do "if you are a woman" AND "if you
are a man". Like that, we, as men, can also understand the problem.

2. "Gender Neutral Vocabulary Cheat Sheet". This would be really useful. For
instance, I didn't know that saying "Hello guys" wasn't gender neutral. My
female English teacher said it was plural for people, both men and women. In
doubt, I even asked once to two girls from the USA whether I could say "hello
guys" to them, and they say it was OK. Anyway, this was at the beginning of the
century.... but still, sometimes we use non-neutral vocabulary because of
ignorance, not explicitly, so, having a flyer with a list of words to avoid and
words to use instead would be useful. Note that it's not enough with sentences
like: "don't say this..." The flyer needs to provide a correct alternative that
is gender neutral. It shouldn't be a flyer to just ban words, but also to
propose solutions.

That's what I could come up with. I hope it helps.

Cheers
Boriss

>
> Cheers,
> Gülçin
>
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 17:40, Lætitia Avrot <laetitia(dot)avrot(at)gmail(dot)com
> <mailto:laetitia(dot)avrot(at)gmail(dot)com>> wrote:
>
> +1 to give Illaria a ticket.
>
> Le sam. 23 mars 2019 à 12:47, gülçin yıldırım <yildirim(dot)gulcin88(at)gmail(dot)com
> <mailto:yildirim(dot)gulcin88(at)gmail(dot)com>> a écrit :
>
> As far as I know (group needs to confirm this), the conference gave us 5
> free tickets, so you can have one of them. You are the perfect candidate
> for the booth as well! Thank you for willing to do it <3 If you are
> worried about travel expenses I can personally cover your train trip.
> Just let me know if it helps you to come there.
>
> Cheers,
> Gülçin
>
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 12:02, Ilaria <ilaria(dot)battiston(at)gmail(dot)com
> <mailto:ilaria(dot)battiston(at)gmail(dot)com>> wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
> I’m an Italian postgres fan and I would love to be at the booth, I
> can speak both Italian and English so that would be a plus.
>
> I just checked the trains from my city (Milan) to Bologna and
> they’re about 30€ for a round trip on the 17th, so I should be able
> to attend (I’m a little tight on money, so I can’t give you 100%
> availability yet).
>
> I’m a student, so purchasing an ordinary ticket would be more
> expensive - maybe you can give me that one? Not sure how it works.
>
> Let me know,
> Ilaria
>
> Am 23.03.2019 um 11:20 schrieb gülçin yıldırım
> <yildirim(dot)gulcin88(at)gmail(dot)com <mailto:yildirim(dot)gulcin88(at)gmail(dot)com>>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If we will give 5 free tickets perhaps we can ask those ladies to
>> do some booth duty as well, that can be our requirement for
>> ticket. We can decide what sort of tasks they should perform
>> there, should not be anything hard even at the entry level.
>>
>> If there will be no women at the booth, I would vote for not to
>> open the booth at first place.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gülçin
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 10:43, Boriss Mejias <bmejias(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl
>> <mailto:bmejias(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>> wrote:
>>
>> Great news Lætitia,
>>
>> Just one correction, the event is on the 17th of May.
>>
>> I hope you can find some women to be at the booth.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Boriss
>>
>> Lætitia Avrot wrote on 23.03.19 10:36:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Pgday Italy organizers have is a booth and 5 free tickets.
>> >
>> > This event will take place the 19th of May in Bologna.
>> >
>> > So,  first,  we need to give away the 5 free tickets,  so if
>> you or a woman you
>> > know is interested,  just reply to me and I'll make sure
>> you'll have one.
>> >
>> > Then,  unfortunately,  I won't be able to be there. I have a
>> friend that could
>> > be at the desk but he's a man and I'm concerned that a
>> postgres women booth with
>> > only a man could send the wrong message... Is any woman
>> there available for that
>> > event?
>> >
>> > Last but not least,  what do we want to have in the postgres
>> women booth? Do we
>> > want to give away stickers? Do we want to print some flyers?
>> Do we want to
>> > create awesome tee-shirts to sell (but it would mean for us
>> to manage money)? Do
>> > we want to print and give away a list of postgres women
>> public speakers? (please
>> > add your ideas here)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Lætitia Avrot
>>

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