From: | Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> |
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To: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: HS/SR and smart shutdown |
Date: | 2010-01-30 00:01:15 |
Message-ID: | 4B6376CB.5090804@agliodbs.com |
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>> It's a good question if that still makes sense with Hot Standby.
>> Perhaps we should redefine smart shutdown in standby mode to shut down
>> as soon as all read-only connections have died.
>
> It's clear that "smart" shutdown doesn't work while something is active.
> Recovery is "active" and so we shouldn't shutdown. It makes sense, it
> works like this already, lets leave it. Document it if needed.
I don't think it's clear, or intuitive for users. In SR, recovery is
*never* done, so smart shutdown never completes (even if the master is
shut down, when I tested it). This is particularly an important issue
when you consider that some/many service and init scripts only use smart
shutdown ... so we'll get a lot of "bug reports" of "posgresql does not
shut down".
HOWEVER, I do believe this is an issue we could live with for 9.0 if
it's going to lead to a whole lot of additional debugging of SR. But if
it's an easy fix, it'll avoid a lot of complaints on pgsql-general.
--Josh Berkus
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