Re: invalidly encoded strings

From: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>
To: Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>
Cc: Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org>, tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us, laurenz(dot)albe(at)wien(dot)gv(dot)at, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: invalidly encoded strings
Date: 2007-09-11 02:55:57
Message-ID: 46E603BD.70707@dunslane.net
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Jeff Davis wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 11:27 +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
>
>>> BTW, it strikes me that there is another hole that we need to plug in
>>> this area, and that's the convert() function. Being able to create
>>> a value of type text that is not in the database encoding is simply
>>> broken. Perhaps we could make it work on bytea instead (providing
>>> a cast from text to bytea but not vice versa), or maybe we should just
>>> forbid the whole thing if the database encoding isn't SQL_ASCII.
>>>
>> Please don't do that. It will break an usefull use case of convert().
>>
>> A user has a database encoded in UTF-8. He has English, French,
>> Chinese and Japanese data in tables. To sort the tables in the
>> language order, he will do like this:
>>
>> SELECT * FROM japanese_table ORDER BY convert(japanese_text using utf8_to_euc_jp);
>>
>> Without using convert(), he will get random order of data. This is
>> because Kanji characters are in random order in UTF-8, while Kanji
>> characters are reasonably ordered in EUC_JP.
>>
>
> Isn't the collation a locale issue, not an encoding issue? Is there a
> ja_JP.UTF-8 that defines the proper order?
>
>
>

That won't help you much if you have all the collection mentioned above.

cheers

andrew

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