Re: Two-phase commit security restrictions

From: David Garamond <lists(at)zara(dot)6(dot)isreserved(dot)com>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>
Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Two-phase commit security restrictions
Date: 2004-10-14 05:00:34
Message-ID: 416E07F2.6010301@zara.6.isreserved.com
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Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>>>Another approach I've been thinking about is to allow anyone that knows
>>>the (user-supplied) global transaction identifier to finish the
>>>transaction, and hide the gids of running transactions from regular
>>>users. That way, the gid acts as a secret token that's only known by the
>>>transaction manager, much like the cancel key.
>>
>>Personally I prefer the last. It should be infeasible to crack as long
>>as the gid is long enough (e.g. sufficiently random 128bit value or
>>more) and the channel between the TM and Postgres is secure.
>
> So it is possible for a user connected to the DB to send random commit
> or cancel commands, just in case she happens to hit a valid GID?

It is not essentially different from someone trying to bruteforce a
password. A 128bit value like a random GUID is as strong as a 16 char
password comprising ASCII 0-255 characters. And I would argue that this
is _not_ security through obscurity. Security through obscurity is
relying on unpublished methods/algorithms. This is not.

But I understand that everybody seems to be against this idea.

--
dave

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