Re: I just got it: PostgreSQL Application Server -- a

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: pgsql(at)mohawksoft(dot)com
Cc: Thomas Hallgren <thhal(at)mailblocks(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: I just got it: PostgreSQL Application Server -- a
Date: 2004-06-14 03:50:40
Message-ID: 40CD2090.5070905@commandprompt.com
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>The "PostgreSQL Enhanced Server" (How's that name? Maybe we call it Zerver
>and use PEZ?) idea is how to take the excellent core of PostgreSQL and
>productize it in much the same way distributions take the Linux kernel and
>may a GNU/Linux system.
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It would seem to me that this is more correct in the commercial space.
Of course I am biased but
what you are talking about sounds a whole lot like RedHat Enterprise
versus Fedora etc....

J

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>>Even if I find the concepts as such very interesting, I think the term
>>"Application Server" is very misleading. People would get very confused
>>and
>>place PostgreSQL in the same category as JBoss, Jonas, Apache Geronimo,
>>IBM
>>Websphere, BEA Weblogic to name a few well known App-servers.
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>>IMHO, you really need some other umbrella name for this.
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>>Kind regards,
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>>Thomas Hallgren
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>>""Carl E. McMillin"" <carlymac(at)earthlink(dot)net> wrote in message
>>news:000801c4508b$8c2ef3a0$6500a8c0(at)DEVSONY(dot)(dot)(dot)
>>Jumping on that bandwagon with all 6 feet!
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>>Carl <|};-)>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: pgsql-hackers-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
>>[mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org] On Behalf Of
>>pgsql(at)mohawksoft(dot)com
>>Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:38 PM
>>To: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
>>Subject: [HACKERS] I just got it: PostgreSQL Application Server -- a new
>>project.
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>>I have been harping for the last few days (years, actually) about tweaks
>>and
>>changes to PostgreSQL for a number of reasons ranging from session
>>management to static tables. I even had a notion to come up with msession
>>on
>>PostgreSQL.
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>>I have been incorporating full text search, recommendations, and a slew of
>>other features into PostgreSQL, but you know what? While it does touch
>>Postgre in a real sense, it is not strictly SQL. It is about how to create
>>applications with PostgreSQL. That's what we're missing, Coneptually,
>>PostgreSQL is strictly a database and the core team (rightly so) is
>>fundimentally happy with that aspect of it.
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>>Maybe we need a pgfoundary project called "PostgreSQL Application Server."
>>Like Apache Tomcat or regular apache or PHP, PostgreSQL could form the SQL
>>base of a far more intricate and flexable framework that encompases a lot
>>of
>>the various features that could provide "application sever" features from
>>PostgreSQL.
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