Re: 7.4 features list

Bruce,

I think you are doing the right thing by starting the discussion now.
But there are at least three ways to deal with the potential of missing
the June 1 date. The first way is to move the date a second way is to
cut scope, and a third way is to increase resources. I would like to
focus on that third way. Is there anything any of us out here lurking
on these mail lists can do to help? I know that there are a lot of
people who want to see the win32 port in 7.4. Can the work be broken up
so that others could contribute?

thanks,
--Barry

Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I have gotten some replies so let me chime in now.
>
> Basically, here is how this happens --- you wait for a slow time to do
> this major work, and as the deadline draws near, you realize a slow time
> isn't coming and you stop doing anything else but the big project. I
> bet Patrick is in the same boat.
>
> I am not reading much email anymore, not participating in discussions,
> not applying patches, not adding other features --- but I underestimated
> the fork/exec issues and now I feel behind. I have phoned Jan and he is
> going to help me out, but at this point, I don't know if that will be
> enough so I am reporting to the group.
>
> Also, I am reporting problems now, rather than mid-May or June 1.
>
> As far as past delay disasters, the issues were:
>
> o waited until the deadline to extend
> o extended deadline in too small increments
> o didn't set reasonable new deadlines
>
> So, we have to decide now if we want to delay, and if so, we have to
> decide on the new deadline in one month increments (July 1), and we have
> to reevalute that on June 1 to determine if July 1 is still
> reasonable/desired.
>
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>
> Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>
>>Amen.
>>
>>Since I now have some free time on my hands (through no choice of mine
>>;-( ) I can devote some of it to the W32 work if someone (Bruce?) would
>>like to throw some tasks over the fence at me, to help shorten the cycle. (I
>>take it from previous discussion what is basically needed is Windows+cygwin,
>>right?)
>>
>>andrew
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Thomas Kellerer" <spam_eater(at)gmx(dot)net>
>>To: <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
>>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 5:02 PM
>>Subject: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 features list
>>
>>
>>
>>>Bruce Momjian schrieb:
>>>
>>>>I am continuing on the work, but I am now uncertain I can complete by
>>>>code freeze in Mid-May, or even by the end of May.
>>>>
>>>>I am unsure what we should do:
>>>>
>>>>delay code freeze
>>>>allow Win32 patches during beta
>>>>delay Win32 for 7.5
>>>>
>>>
>>>I'm just a "normal" user, but I'd like to throw in my to 2cents as well.
>>
>>As
>>
>>>much as I appreciate all the work you are doing, I think that decent Win32
>>>version will give PostgreSQL big momentum especially over MySQL. I'm
>>>happily running the Peer-Direct version (although not in a
>>>business-critical environment) and I would just love to see an "official"
>>>win32 version.
>>>
>>>So from my point of view delaying Win32 for 7.5 would really be a bad
>>
>>choice.
>>
>>>Cheers
>>>Thomas
>>>
>>>
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