Re: 7.4 features list

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: 7.4 features list
Date: 2003-05-05 22:39:40
Message-ID: 200305052239.h45MdeG27854@candle.pha.pa.us
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I have gotten some replies so let me chime in now.

Basically, here is how this happens --- you wait for a slow time to do
this major work, and as the deadline draws near, you realize a slow time
isn't coming and you stop doing anything else but the big project. I
bet Patrick is in the same boat.

I am not reading much email anymore, not participating in discussions,
not applying patches, not adding other features --- but I underestimated
the fork/exec issues and now I feel behind. I have phoned Jan and he is
going to help me out, but at this point, I don't know if that will be
enough so I am reporting to the group.

Also, I am reporting problems now, rather than mid-May or June 1.

As far as past delay disasters, the issues were:

o waited until the deadline to extend
o extended deadline in too small increments
o didn't set reasonable new deadlines

So, we have to decide now if we want to delay, and if so, we have to
decide on the new deadline in one month increments (July 1), and we have
to reevalute that on June 1 to determine if July 1 is still
reasonable/desired.

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Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> Amen.
>
> Since I now have some free time on my hands (through no choice of mine
> ;-( ) I can devote some of it to the W32 work if someone (Bruce?) would
> like to throw some tasks over the fence at me, to help shorten the cycle. (I
> take it from previous discussion what is basically needed is Windows+cygwin,
> right?)
>
> andrew
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Kellerer" <spam_eater(at)gmx(dot)net>
> To: <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 features list
>
>
> >
> > Bruce Momjian schrieb:
> > > I am continuing on the work, but I am now uncertain I can complete by
> > > code freeze in Mid-May, or even by the end of May.
> > >
> > > I am unsure what we should do:
> > >
> > > delay code freeze
> > > allow Win32 patches during beta
> > > delay Win32 for 7.5
> > >
> > I'm just a "normal" user, but I'd like to throw in my to 2cents as well.
> As
> > much as I appreciate all the work you are doing, I think that decent Win32
> > version will give PostgreSQL big momentum especially over MySQL. I'm
> > happily running the Peer-Direct version (although not in a
> > business-critical environment) and I would just love to see an "official"
> > win32 version.
> >
> > So from my point of view delaying Win32 for 7.5 would really be a bad
> choice.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Thomas
> >
> >
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