Re: HOT patch, missing things

From: "Pavan Deolasee" <pavan(dot)deolasee(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Gregory Stark" <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, "Simon Riggs" <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "Heikki Linnakangas" <heikki(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "Pavan Deolasee" <pavan(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: HOT patch, missing things
Date: 2007-08-22 06:59:02
Message-ID: 2e78013d0708212359jc275a16w6c6c4fdc1a0a4369@mail.gmail.com
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On 8/14/07, Gregory Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>
> "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
>
> >
> > Doesn't this design completely fail to take index bloat into account?
> > Repairing heap fragmentation does not reduce the need for VACUUM to work
> > on the indexes.
>
> Index bloat is a bit of an open issue already. Because page splits already
> prune any LP_DELETEd pointers any busy index keys will be pruned already.

However any index keys which have not been the subject of an index lookup --
> and that includes keys which are only accessed by bitmap-index-scans --
> won't
> be pruned.
>
> So we don't really know how much bloat is currently in an index. Perhaps
> we
> need a new statistic which gets updated whenever a page split prunes
> LP_DELETEd pointers (or perhaps when LP_DELETE is set?).

I agree here. As a first step, may be can address the heap space usage
statistics and then take up index stats separately. Index bloat would carry
a different weight in triggering autovacuum.

I shall code up a patch which tracks the dead space in the heap and
trigger autovac based on that.

Thanks,
Pavan

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Pavan Deolasee
EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com

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