Re: Vertica targeting PostgreSQL users

Hi,

> On Nov 20, 2017, at 7:26 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On 11/20/2017 04:04 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
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>> So basically you critize the companies that actually do postgres
>> development. Most of the other companies making money with postgres
>> contribute pretty much no development time back.
>
> You know what I find funny about this whole thread?
>
> 1. I defended 2Q
> 2. I defended EDB
> 3. I stated they are conducting good business
> 4. I stated that they are the largest contributors
> 5. I stated we should be thankful and gracious to those companies
>
> People all upset that I didn't 100% agree with how they do things.
>
> We apparently have exactly nothing better to do with our lives but pick apart an email and look for any crumb of discontent so we can jump on it like lemmings falling over a cliff.

So the intent of my original email was such:

1. Demonstrate validation for Postgres being a market leader based on the fact that competitive databases are featuring us prominently in their marketing materials. This is really exciting!
2. Show that there is more we can learn about how to handle various data sets and workloads and see if there are things that exist in the community to already help with those, and if so, how we can make those more visible
3. A reminder that it’s good for us to continue to listen to what our users need and want so we can continue to build a better product, and also highlight where we have excellent support both as a community and from our commercial partners that sponsor and support our work.
4. Lastly show that one of the new challenges facing the community is user retention: this is a different problem than we have traditionally faced as we primarily were focused on user acquisition.

That’s all. I’m glad it’s generated some good ideas and discussion around those points, but the intention is to show that we as a community can all work together to solve these problems (in part, what Oleg suggested). We all want Postgres to be successful and all the different companies supporting Postgres have different ways of getting there, but at the end of the day, we all share common goal of helping to improve Postgres and the community.

Jonathan