From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com> |
Cc: | Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: COPYable logs status |
Date: | 2007-06-08 14:29:03 |
Message-ID: | 25062.1181312943@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com> writes:
> The idea of one pipe per process is not really workable, because it
> would mean having as many pipes as backends which does not sound very
> good. But how about a mixed approach -- like have the all the backends
> share a pipe, controlled by an LWLock, and the auxiliary process have a
> separate pipe each?
Multiple pipes seem like a mess, and in any case the above still doesn't
work for stderr output produced by non-cooperative software (dynamic
loader for instance).
The only solution that I can see is to invent some sort of simple
protocol for the syslogger pipe. Assume that the kernel honors PIPE_BUF
(this assumption may need proving, see other message). We could imagine
having elog.c divvy up its writes to the pipe into chunks of less than
PIPE_BUF bytes, where each chunk carries info sufficient to let it be
reassembled. Perhaps something on the order of
\0 \0 2-byte-length source-PID end-flag text...
The syslogger reassembles these by joining messages with the same
origination PID, until it gets one with the end-flag set. It would need
enough code to track multiple in-progress messages.
The logger would have to also be able to deal with random text coming
down the pipe (due to aforesaid non-cooperative software). I would be
inclined to say just take any text not preceded by \0\0 as a standalone
message, up to the next \0\0. Long chunks of non-protocol text would
risk getting treated as multiple messages, but there's probably not a
lot of harm in that.
BTW, exactly what is the COPYable-logs code going to do with random
text? I trust the answer is not "throw it away".
regards, tom lane
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