Re: trouble caused by change in 7.3 handling of '' in

From: Larry Rosenman <ler(at)lerctr(dot)org>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, Vivek Khera <khera(at)kcilink(dot)com>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: trouble caused by change in 7.3 handling of '' in
Date: 2002-12-19 17:29:03
Message-ID: 24910000.1040318943@lerlaptop.lerctr.org
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--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:22:18 -0500 Tom Lane
<tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:

> Larry Rosenman <ler(at)lerctr(dot)org> writes:
>> --On Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:01:21 -0500 Bruce Momjian
>> <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>>> Yes, this was really it --- we didn't realize how many apps used this.
>>> Also, we expected to hit them before final release, when we could have
>>> reverted the change.
>
>> IT DID! (see my post during Beta).
>
>> You said, well, that's only one.
>
> It's still only two. And I still haven't heard any cogent argument why
> we shouldn't regard these apps as broken --- regardless of how many
> there are. I cannot see any rational reason for accepting '' as meaning
> zero in an integer field. If someone were to present an example where
> this actually makes sense (and is not just evidence of very sloppy
> programming) I'd be more sympathetic ...
The issue isn't whether the app is broken or not, (it is), but the fact
that we
****CHANGED**** behavior with ****NO**** notice and no way to keep the app
working on
the current release without MAJOR changes to the app. (some apps just have
it so ingrained
in them).

We ***SHOULD*** have noticed the user community, and had a transition plan.

This should be a lesson to us to be more sensitive to applications out
there, and
give NOTICE about compatibility issues.

[snip]

I understand your point, Tom, but this does not help PostgreSQL's
acceptability in the
marketplace.

LER

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