Re: EphemeralNamedRelation and materialized view

From: Yugo NAGATA <nagata(at)sraoss(dot)co(dot)jp>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: EphemeralNamedRelation and materialized view
Date: 2024-12-05 14:16:01
Message-ID: 20241205231601.73aa0ed696570e2a7b12c454@sraoss.co.jp
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:43:16 -0500
Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:

> Yugo NAGATA <nagata(at)sraoss(dot)co(dot)jp> writes:
> >> You could even argue that case 2 isn't good enough either,
> >> and we should be delivering a specific error message saying
> >> that an ENR can't be used in a view/matview. To do that,
> >> we'd likely need to pass down the QueryEnvironment in more
> >> places not fewer.
>
> > We can raise a similar error for (not materialized) views by passing
> > QueryEnv to DefineView() (or in ealier stage) , but there are other
> > objects that can contain ENR in their definition, for examle, functions,
> > cursor, or RLS policies. Is it worth introducing this version of error
> > message for all these objects?
>
> If it's worth checking for here, why not in other cases?
>
> I'm not sure I like using isQueryUsingTempRelation as a model,
> because its existing use in transformCreateTableAsStmt seems
> like mostly a hack. (And I definitely don't love introducing
> yet another scan of the query.) It seems to me that we should
> think about this, for MVs as well as those other object types,
> as fundamentally a dependency problem. That is, the reason
> we can't allow a reference to an ENR in a long-lived object
> is that we have no catalog representation for the reference.
> So that leads to thinking that the issue ought to be handled
> in recordDependencyOnExpr and friends. If we see an ENR while
> scanning a rangetable to extract dependencies, then complain.
> This might be a bit messy to produce good error messages for,
> though.
>
> Speaking of error messages, I'm not sure that it's okay to
> use the phrase "ephemeral named relation" in a user-facing
> error message. We don't use that term in our documentation
> AFAICS, except in some SPI documentation that most users
> will never have read. In the context of triggers, "transition
> relation" seems to be what the docs use.

Thank you for your suggestion.

I've attached a updated patch. Use of ENRs are now checked in
find_expr_references_walker() called from recordDependencyOnExpr().

The message is changed to "transition tables cannot be used rule"
because the view definition is stored in the pg_rewrite catalog as
a rule.

Regards,
Yugo Nagata

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Yugo NAGATA <nagata(at)sraoss(dot)co(dot)jp>

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