Re: Truncation of mapped catalogs (whether local or shared) leads to server crash

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Ashutosh Sharma <ashu(dot)coek88(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Truncation of mapped catalogs (whether local or shared) leads to server crash
Date: 2024-06-18 14:32:43
Message-ID: 20240618143243.gm4ohitiardzqkjn@awork3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2024-06-18 19:58:26 +0530, Ashutosh Sharma wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 7:50 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> >
> > Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 8:10 AM Ashutosh Sharma <ashu(dot)coek88(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > >> Executing below commands:
> > >> -- set allow_system_table_mods TO on;
> > >> -- truncate table pg_type;
> >
> > > If the operation isn't allowed without turning on
> > > allow_system_table_mods, that means that doing it is probably a bad
> > > idea and will probably break stuff, as happened here.
> >
> > Nothing good can come of truncating *any* core system catalog --- what
> > do you think you'll still be able to do afterwards?
> >
> > I think the assertion you noticed is there because the code path gets
> > traversed during REINDEX, which is an operation we do support on
> > system catalogs. I have zero interest in making truncate work
> > on them.
> >
>
> I agree with you on that point. How about considering a complete
> restriction instead?

What's the point? There are occasional cases where doing something dangerous
is useful, for debugging or corruption recovery. If we flat out prohibit this
we'll just need a allow_system_table_mods_but_for_real option.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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