Re: Width of SubTransactionId (hello Postgres PRO)

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Chapman Flack <chap(at)anastigmatix(dot)net>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Width of SubTransactionId (hello Postgres PRO)
Date: 2021-10-28 16:34:29
Message-ID: 20211028163429.GB32290@momjian.us
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On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 12:02:30PM -0400, Chapman Flack wrote:
> On 10/28/21 10:37, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > I know of no plans to implement 64-bit transaction ids in community
> > Postgres because of the longer tuple header and file format changes.
> > It is discussed occasionally though.
>
> Is there anything you can use a SubTransactionId for outside of C code?
>
> PL/Java interacts with these things through BeginInternalSubTransaction(),
> ReleaseCurrentSubTransaction(), or RollbackAndReleaseCurrentSubTransaction()
> in C.
>
> It also has been obeying the letter of the JDBC spec by implementing
> a method that can return it to the caller (as a Java 32-bit int, oops,
> so decreed by the spec). [0]
>
> But as I think about it, I am not sure there is anything interesting or
> useful a Java caller could do with a SubTransactionId anyway. I mean, does
> it even appear in a statistics view or SQL-exposed function anywhere? I see
> there is a top-level backend_xid in pg_stat_activity, but is there any
> exposure of SubTransactionIds anywhere?
>
> Everything you can do with a Savepoint in JDBC (release it or roll it back,
> what else is there?) is just a method on the Java object and you don't need
> to know its underlying id.

That is my assumption too.

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