From: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> |
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To: | Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> |
Cc: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Damien Clochard <damien(at)dalibo(dot)info>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgsql-www-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: [pgsql-www] New Mailing List : pgsql-gui-dev@postgresql.org ? |
Date: | 2017-11-29 14:37:33 |
Message-ID: | 20171129143733.GI4628@tamriel.snowman.net |
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Magnus, all,
* Magnus Hagander (magnus(at)hagander(dot)net) wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> > On 29 November 2017 at 20:29, Damien Clochard <damien(at)dalibo(dot)info> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sorry to insist but my original message was a month ago and I have no
> > > idea how to proceed...
> >
> > Back in 2004, there was huge interest in setting up a special list to
> > discuss PITR. We did, then everyone waited for me to write the
> > feature.
> >
> > As a result we said "no more special purpose lists".
> >
> > If anybody is actually planning to write emails to this list, why not
> > start writing them now? Why wait?
> >
> > Just use the prefix "GUI". If we get enough people writing emails and
> > code, then maybe a special list is worth having.
>
> I think that the core difference is that pitr was basically a subset of
> -hackers. (as was the win32-hackers list, which I believe was around the
> same time)
>
> My understanding at least is that the target audience for a "gui list" has
> very little overlap with the target audience for the hackers list, right?
I'm a bit concerned about adding yet-another-mailing-list too, and I'll
point to 'pgsql-cluster-hackers' as an even more recent case where we
added a list and it ended up dying off.
Now, it's a good point that cluster-hackers is also just another subset
of -hackers, and perhaps gui-dev is enough different that it won't
suffer from this issue, but I have to ask this:
What of pgadmin-hackers ? That list certainly gets traffic on it
regularly as it's being actively developed, but are people expecting
that traffic to move to this new list? If not, why not? If it's
because there's not enough commonality between pgadmin and whatever the
list is for, then I'm confused as to the point of the list. If the idea
is to move the pgadmin-hackers traffic over to this new list, then that
would settle my concerns that it ends up being a dead list.
If there's other active projects that need lists to facilitate the
development of the project, then that also seems more likely to be used
moving forward, but having one general list for what seems like a bunch
of independet projects strikes me as a bit odd, especially when the one
I'm most familiar with (pgadmin) is going to continue to be
independent (if that's the case, which I'm guessing it is..).
Thanks!
Stephen
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