From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> |
Cc: | Jim Nasby <jim(at)nasby(dot)net>, Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>, pgsql-advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: 9.6 -> 10.0 |
Date: | 2016-05-01 14:20:32 |
Message-ID: | 20160501142032.GB29462@momjian.us |
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 08:29:07AM -0700, Joshua Drake wrote:
> On 04/10/2016 04:23 PM, Jim Nasby wrote:
>
> >> From that:
> >>
> >> * SQL compliant identifiers
> >> * Remove RULEs
> >> * Change recovery.conf
> >> * Change block headers
> >> * Retire template0, template1
> >> * Optimise FSM
> >> * Add heap metapage
> >> * Alter tuple headers
> >
>
> [snip]
>
...
> What is the problem we are trying to solve?
>
> SQL compliant indentifiers? Is there a sizeable user base requesting this?
>
> Remove Rules? Why?
>
> Retire template0, template1? Why?
>
> I think those are the questions we need answered. Having a list of what
> might be done in the future to break compatibility without a statement as to
> the problem they cause or how the process will fix that problem is basically
> hand waiving.
>
> (note there are a couple that are obvious, heap metapage, optimise FSM
> etc...)
I was worried that pg_upgrade would block on-disk format changes and
cause a huge pile up of non-optimal storage requirements, but after
seven years (since 2009) is that the biggest list we can come up with?
As far as I am concerned, it doesn't come anywhere near requiring all
users to dump/restore.
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