Re: FPW compression leaks information

From: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
To: Claudio Freire <klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: FPW compression leaks information
Date: 2015-07-07 17:24:08
Message-ID: 20150707172408.GR12131@tamriel.snowman.net
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* Claudio Freire (klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com) wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> wrote:
> > * Heikki Linnakangas (hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi) wrote:
> >> On 07/07/2015 04:31 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
> >> >The alternative is to have monitoring tools which are running as
> >> >superuser, which, in my view at least, is far worse.
> >>
> >> Or don't enable fpw_compression for tables where the information
> >> leak is a problem.
> >
> > My hope would be that we would enable FPW compression by default for
> > everyone as a nice optimization. Relegating it to a risky option which
> > has to be tweaked on a per-table basis, but only for those tables where
> > you don't mind the risk, makes a nice optimization nearly unusable for
> > many environments.
>
> No, only tables that have RLS (or the equivalent, like in the case of
> pg_authid), where the leak may be meaningful.
>
> The attack requires control over an adjacent (same page) row, but not
> over the row being attacked. That's RLS.

Eh? I don't recall Heikki's attack requiring RLS and what about
column-level privilege cases where you have access to the row but not to
one of the columns?

Thanks,

Stephen

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