From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Claudio Freire <klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com>, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Greco <David_Greco(at)harte-hanks(dot)com>, "pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Poor performance using CTE |
Date: | 2012-11-21 15:32:09 |
Message-ID: | 20121121153209.GA1271@awork2.anarazel.de |
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On 2012-11-21 10:21:16 -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>
> On 11/21/2012 09:59 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> >Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> writes:
> >>If we're going to do it can we please come up with something more
> >>intuitive and much, much more documented than "OFFSET 0"? And if/when we
> >>do this we'll need to have big red warnings all over then release notes,
> >>since a lot of people I know will need to do some extensive remediation
> >>before moving to such a release.
> >The probability that we would actually *remove* that behavior of OFFSET
> >0 is not distinguishable from zero. I'm not terribly excited about
> >having an alternate syntax to specify an optimization fence, but even
> >if we do create such a thing, there's no need to break the historical
> >usage.
> >
>
> I wasn't talking about removing it. My point was that if the optimization
> fence around CTEs is removed a lot of people will need to rework apps where
> they have used them for that purpose. And I continue to think that spelling
> it "OFFSET 0" is horribly obscure.
+1
WITH foo AS (SELECT ...) (barrier=on|off)?
9.3 introduces the syntax, defaulting to on
9.4 switches the default to off.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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