Re: Formatting Curmudgeons WAS: MMAP Buffers

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Dan Ports <drkp(at)csail(dot)mit(dot)edu>, Kevin Grittner <kevin(dot)grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>, andrew <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, cbbrowne <cbbrowne(at)gmail(dot)com>, greg <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Formatting Curmudgeons WAS: MMAP Buffers
Date: 2011-04-20 19:17:20
Message-ID: 201104202117.20725.andres@anarazel.de
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On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 09:09:48 PM Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 08:50:04 PM Tom Lane wrote:
> >> Yeah, maybe. To do that, we'd have to strongly resist the temptation to
> >> spend a lot of time fixing up submitted patches --- if it's not pretty
> >> darn close to committable, back it goes. But that might be a good thing
> >> all around. I find this idea attractive.
> > Actually as a patch submitter I would somewhat prefer that as well. Its
> > not exactly easy to learn what wasn't optimal with your patch at times.
> > On the other hand for some issues its pretty hard to fix the more
> > involved issues without e.g. Tom's involvement.
> This would amount to reducing the amount of time we spend
> in-CommitFest from 50% to slightly less than 25%. That would
> certainly be pleasant from my point of view, but for the average patch
> to get the same amount of attention, we'd need twice as many
> volunteers, or the existing people to volunteer twice as much time, or
> everyone to work twice as fast as they already are. That's not
> impossible, if the new system inspires more people to contribute, but
> 2x is a lot, especially when you correct for relative skill levels:
> we're not going to find another Tom Lane.
> Still, it's an interesting thought.
Additional points:
* perhaps it also frees up time if committers balk earlier if a patch doesn't
meet some requirement
* Patch submitters learn more:
* so they submit better patches in the future
* so they can apply the same standards when they review other patches

Andres

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