From: | Dan Colish <dan(at)unencrypted(dot)org> |
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To: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com> |
Cc: | "David E(dot) Wheeler" <david(at)kineticode(dot)com>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, PG Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Rules: A Modest Proposal |
Date: | 2009-10-05 01:24:19 |
Message-ID: | 20091005012419.GC27563@funkstrom.spiretech.com |
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On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 08:54:56PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> David E. Wheeler wrote:
> > On Oct 4, 2009, at 1:57 PM, David Fetter wrote:
> >
> > >It's less about like or dislike and more about facing up to the
> > >reality that we've got a major legacy foot-gun left over from the
> > >experimentation of the Berkeley days.
> >
> > I think you're going to need to be a bit more concrete than that. In
> > what way is it a foot-gun? What examples can you provide? What,
> > exactly, are the issues?
>
> While I don't agree with David Fetter's premise, I think rehashing how
> we handle VIEWs would be a good step towards updatable views. Right
> now, the implementation of that is stalled precisely because of the rule
> system.
>
I am not sure where that view implemenation is, but I doubt its stalled because
of the rule system. You can definitely create updatable views using rules.
However, I'm not sure updatable views are a good thing in most scenarios. I see
way too much damage as a likely outcome.
Rules are one of the great generative features of postgres and I see no reason
to cut them. Features should not be limited just because they can be used
incorrectly, since they can also be used in other correct/interesting ways we
have yet to think up.
--
--Dan
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