Re: Need license clarification on some web graphics

From: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
To: pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
Cc: Emily Boyd <emily(at)tinysofa(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need license clarification on some web graphics
Date: 2006-02-14 13:41:46
Message-ID: 200602140841.47135.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net
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On Tuesday 14 February 2006 06:57, Emily Boyd wrote:
> Dave Page wrote:
> > Which is great, but as the entire site is and always has been offered
> > for anyone to use under the BSD licence that simply won't work because
> > we have no sensible practical way of excluding specific files from the
> > licence advertised on the project site.
>
> As Tom Lane said when this was first raised over a year ago:
>
> "The BSD license is not antithetical to living beside non-free stuff
> (unlike GPL). I agree it would be a good idea to point out somewhere in
> the relevant docs that the elephant image isn't BSD'd, just so no one
> mistakenly thinks it is."
>
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-www/2004-12/msg00278.php
>
> Omar Kilani also proposed the text to exclude the image from the BSD
> license -- I'm not sure if this was ever added to a license file, but
> that's where it belongs.
>
> As this was resolved, and the image has been used on the website since
> December 2004, I'm not sure why it's necessary to expend resources
> debating this issue again.
>

It wouldn't be if this were just about us using on the website, but we now
have people re-using the image in material that is not controlled by the
PostgreSQL "web team", which istm is the type of use that we are supposed to
be preventing.

> Anyway, as I said, there is no problem using the image for any
> PostgreSQL-related websites or graphics so long as the original license
> is adhered to.
>

As much as I like that picture, my feeling is it isn't worth it to use the
photo if we can't release it under a creative-commons license. Allowing
people to remix postgresql related content into their own materials has
always been the general policy of the PostgreSQL community, and I see no
benefit from going away from that policy in this case; I know I certainly
don't want to have to be the license police for people far removed from the
project who want to modify these graphics for their own use.

--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

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