From: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)skype(dot)net> |
Cc: | PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: possible TODO: read-only tables, select from indexes only. |
Date: | 2005-04-22 17:14:56 |
Message-ID: | 200504221714.j3MHEuO27670@candle.pha.pa.us |
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Hannu Krosing wrote:
> On R, 2005-04-22 at 11:40 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > See this TODO:
> >
> > * Allow data to be pulled directly from indexes
> >
> > Currently indexes do not have enough tuple visibility information
> > to allow data to be pulled from the index without also accessing
> > the heap. One way to allow this is to set a bit to index tuples
> > to indicate if a tuple is currently visible to all transactions
> > when the first valid heap lookup happens.
>
> I don't think this is implementable in any reasonably cheap way (i.e.
> this will be a general performance loss).
>
> This has all the downsides of storing full visibility in index tuples,
> except the size.
Yea, I suppose.
> > This bit would have to be cleared when a heap tuple is expired.
>
> Does "expired" here mean marked for deletion ?
Yes.
> This can be prohibitively pricey for big tables with lots of indexes, as
> marking the tuple means alsn finding and possibly writing to all index
> enytries pointing to this tuple.
Yep, it could be very ugly, but it would help with our COUNT(*) problem
too. Isn't there a solution? If there isn't, I can remove the TODO
item.
> > I think this is the direction we should be heading because it has more
> > general usefulness.
>
> OTOH this will probably never be implemented for the same reason that
> full visibility in index tuples will not, whereas my proposition can be
> implemented quite easily (it's just a SMOP).
I would like to find something that has more general usefulness.
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