Re: The TODO List (Was: Re: Open 7.3 items)

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Thomas Lockhart <lockhart(at)fourpalms(dot)org>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: The TODO List (Was: Re: Open 7.3 items)
Date: 2002-09-19 04:46:59
Message-ID: 200209190446.g8J4kxG14134@candle.pha.pa.us
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It is an open issue. It has to be resolved. When it is, I will remove
it. I added a question mark to it but it needs to be tracked. I keep
having to add and remove it because I have people telling me what to do.

It was Peter who told me to add it, and you and Thomas to remove it. It
isn't me adding/removing on my own.

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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> >
> > Re-added to open items:
> >
> > Fix SIMILAR TO to be ANSI compliant or remove it (Peter, Tom)
>
> Tke that @#$(at)$@@$(at)#$ thing out of there until its actually been fully
> discussed ... you are starting to remind me of Charlie Brown ... this, I
> think, was Thomas' whole point, in that things are added way too faster
> and easily without fully understanding all of the ramifications ... let a
> discussion cool down *before* you take things off, or add things to, the
> list ...
>
>
>
>
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> > > "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org> writes:
> > > > I'm in agreement with Thomas here ... unless a problem has been defined a
> > > > bit more specifically then 'it isn't posix compliant', it shouldn't be
> > > > considered an open item ... please remove?
> > >
> > > A quick review of SQL99 says that their notion of SIMILAR TO patterns
> > > is an unholy witches' brew: it does *both* common-or-garden regexp
> > > expressions and LIKE patterns. Specifically, I see these
> > > metacharacters:
> > >
> > > | OR (regexp-ish)
> > >
> > > * repeat 0 or more times (regexp-ish)
> > >
> > > + repeat 1 or more times (regexp-ish)
> > >
> > > % match any character sequence (like LIKE)
> > >
> > > _ match any one character (like LIKE)
> > >
> > > [...] almost-but-not-quite-regexp-ish character class
> > >
> > > (...) grouping (regexp-ish)
> > >
> > > plus a just-like-LIKE treatment of a selectable escape character.
> > >
> > > But the most important variation from common regex practice is that
> > > (if I'm reading the spec correctly) the pattern must match to the
> > > entire target string --- ie, it's effectively both left- and right-
> > > anchored. This is like LIKE patterns but utterly unlike common regexp
> > > usage.
> > >
> > > I could live with the fact that our regexp patterns don't implement all
> > > of the spec-mandated metacharacters. But I do not think we can ignore
> > > the difference in anchoring behavior. This is not a subset of the spec
> > > behavior, it is just plain wrong.
> > >
> > > I vote with Peter: we fix this or we disable it before 7.3 release.
> > > It is not anywhere near spec compliant, and we will be doing no one
> > > a favor by releasing it in the current state.
> > >
> > > regards, tom lane
> > >
> > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> > > TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us
> > pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us | (610) 359-1001
> > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
> > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
> >
>
>

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Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us
pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us | (610) 359-1001
+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
+ Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073

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