Re: Built-in Raft replication

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Konstantin Osipov <kostja(dot)osipov(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nikolay Samokhvalov <nik(at)postgres(dot)ai>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Built-in Raft replication
Date: 2025-04-15 23:19:42
Message-ID: 1798838.1744759182@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Nikolay Samokhvalov <nik(at)postgres(dot)ai> writes:
> This is exactly what I wanted to write as well. The idea is great. At the
> same time, I think, consensus on many decisions will be extremely hard to
> reach, so this project has a high risk of being very long. Unless it's an
> extension, at least in the beginning.

Yeah. The two questions you'd have to get past to get this into PG
core are:

1. Why can't it be an extension? (You claimed it would work more
seamlessly in core, but I don't think you've made a proven case.)

2. Why depend on Raft rather than some other project?

Longtime PG developers are going to be particularly hard on point 2,
because we have a track record now of outliving outside projects
that we thought we could rely on. One example here is the Snowball
stemmer; while its upstream isn't quite dead, it's twitching only
feebly, and seems to have a bus factor of 1. Another example is the
Spencer regex engine; we thought we could depend on Tcl to be the
upstream for that, but for a decade or more they've acted as though
*we* are the upstream. And then there's libxml2. And uuid-ossp.
And autoconf. And various documentation toolchains. Need I go on?

The great advantage of implementing an outside dependency in an
extension is that if the depended-on project dies, we can say a few
words of mourning and move on. It's a lot harder to walk away from
in-core features.

regards, tom lane

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