Re: RFC: Make new versions of pgjdbc Java8+

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Subject: Re: RFC: Make new versions of pgjdbc Java8+
Date: 2017-04-03 22:09:43
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Why not just have a LTS release, also speaking of performance, a long time ago I was having a problem with the Query Parser, calling toCharArray() was slowing down my larger queries, confirmed with JProfiler, some one should look at using charAt() (I forked and hacked it with sun.misc.Unsafe 😊)

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From: Jorge Solórzano <jorsol(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Álvaro Hernández Tortosa <aht(at)8kdata(dot)com>
Cc: Brad DeJong <Brad(dot)Dejong(at)infor(dot)com>; Dave Cramer <pg(at)fastcrypt(dot)com>; John R Pierce <pierce(at)hogranch(dot)com>; List <pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Sent: Mon, Apr 3, 2017 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [JDBC] RFC: Make new versions of pgjdbc Java8+

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Álvaro Hernández Tortosa <aht(at)8kdata(dot)com> wrote:




On 03/04/17 21:47, Brad DeJong wrote:







On 2017-04-03 at 09:32-05, Álvaro Hernández Tortosa <aht(at)8kdata(dot)com> wrote:

> However, I wonder if it would be such a big deal for people that are upgrading to

> Postgres 10 and require SCRAM not to ask them to upgrade their JVM to a non EOLed

> version.



If only the people who want the new functionality are required to upgrade to Java 8, then I think it is not a big deal.

If everyone who wants the latest pgjdbc patches has to upgrade to Java 8, then I think it is a big deal.



I believe the intersection is minimal. What is the chance of users willing to upgrade to Postgres 10, needing SCRAM, running JRE6 or JRE7 and *not* wanting to upgrade their JRE? (all four conditions need to apply).







On 2017-04-03 at 09:32-05, Álvaro Hernández Tortosa <aht(at)8kdata(dot)com> wrote:

> I think the intersection of people who go for very modern PG and non supported Java if almost 0.

The problem with using that argument as a reason to move to Java 8 is that Java 6 and 7 are supported - just not for free.





I stand corrected. I mean now "non supported for free" or equivalent :)

​Well, as I said Oracle JDK is not the only JDK, the OpenJDK/IcedTea Team still supports actively Java 7 (and it's recent the drop of Java 6) and it's free in both as speech and as in beer. :-) if you use Ubuntu 14.04 (which should be supported until April 2019) you will get openjdk-7, and you can get the Azul Zulu JDK for free too :-)



Álvaro


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