Re: ALTER TABLE lock strength reduction patch is unsafe

From: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: ALTER TABLE lock strength reduction patch is unsafe
Date: 2011-06-17 20:41:08
Message-ID: 1308343136-sup-6017@alvh.no-ip.org
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Excerpts from Tom Lane's message of vie jun 17 13:22:40 -0400 2011:

> With this approach, we would have no serialization anomalies from single
> transactions committing while a scan is in progress. There could be
> anomalies resulting from considering an earlier XID to be in-progress
> while a later XID is considered committed (because we didn't observe
> it until later). So far as I can see offhand, the impact of that would
> be that there might be multiple versions of a tuple that are considered
> good, but never that there would be no version considered good (so long
> as the other XIDs simply updated the tuple and didn't delete it). I
> think this would be all right, since the scan would just seize on the
> first good version it finds. As you argue above, if that's not good
> enough for our purposes then the updater(s) should have taken a stronger
> lock.

Hmm, would there be a problem if a scan on catalog A yields results from
supposedly-running transaction X but another scan on catalog B yields
result from transaction Y? (X != Y) For example, a scan on pg_class
says that there are N triggers but scanning pg_trigger says N-1?

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