| From: | Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com> |
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| To: | Lew <lew(at)lwsc(dot)ehost-services(dot)com> |
| Cc: | pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org |
| Subject: | Re: "advanced" database design (long) |
| Date: | 2008-02-12 23:21:40 |
| Message-ID: | 1202858500.21589.37.camel@dogma.ljc.laika.com |
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On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 03:08 -0500, Lew wrote:
> SunWuKung wrote:
> > I always thought that having nullable columns in a table is a Bad
> > Thing (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms191178.aspx) and
>
> Ridiculous. The argument provided in that article is specious and likely SQL
> Server-specific. NULLable columns should occur wherever your data model calls
> for them, typically when you want to have a marker for "unknown" data. The
> advice in that article to move NULLable columns off to a separate table will
> actually cause worse, manual "special handling that increases the complexity
> of data operations" than the built-in and optimized handling the engine
> provides for NULLs. You should ignore this terrible advice.
I disagree that it's ridiculous. There are good arguments for avoiding
NULLs, not the least of which is that they can lead to very unintuitive
results from queries due to 3VL.
I think the passage in question (from the above URL) is reasonably good
advice. They recommend vertical partitioning to avoid NULLs, and I think
that is a very good design strategy in many cases.
> > I think its much better to avoid it whenever you have the info but
> > when you don't you just have to use the EAV model.
>
> Also ridiculous. You should never "have to use" the EAV so-called "model".
Agreed.
> question being described. The difficulty of conceptualizing data structures
> as EAV is one of the big strikes against it. The quoted citation evidences
Agreed. It has many other strikes as well: for instance, it's difficult
to form any kind of meaningful predicate for a relation in an EAV
design.
Regards,
Jeff Davis
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