Re: SQL feature requests

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: "Chuck McDevitt" <cmcdevitt(at)greenplum(dot)com>
Cc: "Florian G(dot) Pflug" <fgp(at)phlo(dot)org>, "Ben Tilly" <btilly(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Michael Glaesemann" <grzm(at)seespotcode(dot)net>, "Gregory Stark" <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: SQL feature requests
Date: 2007-08-23 19:44:13
Message-ID: 11597.1187898253@sss.pgh.pa.us
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"Chuck McDevitt" <cmcdevitt(at)greenplum(dot)com> writes:
> Except "group by 1" meaning "group by column 1" is a PostgreSQL extension, not a SQL standard feature, if I recall.

Correct. Part of the reason for being conservative about changing here
is that we've got a mix of standard and nonstandard behaviors with
to-some-extent conflicting behavior. Rejecting cases that are on the
borderline between the behaviors seems like a safer course than
accepting them and maybe doing something different than the user
expects.

A lot of this is legacy behavior that would never have passed muster
if it had been newly proposed in the last few years --- we have gotten
*far* stricter about SQL compliance than we used to be. But at this
point backwards compatibility also has to weigh heavily.

> Expressions in ORDER BY are a PostgreSQL extension also...

Nyet --- they are required by SQL99 and later. SQL92 and before
had "ORDER BY output-column-name-or-number" (and nothing else).
SQL99 replaced that with ORDER BY <expression>, which they then
bastardized so that it could include output column names, allowing
them to claim that they'd only eliminated the output-column-number
variant. What we support is a rather unholy combination of the two
generations of the spec. People are quite used to ORDER BY 1 and
so I doubt we'll ever want to eliminate the special case for it.

regards, tom lane

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