From: | Ron Johnson <ron(dot)l(dot)johnson(at)cox(dot)net> |
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To: | pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: A creepy story about dates. How to prevent it? |
Date: | 2003-06-19 07:43:12 |
Message-ID: | 1056008592.589.75.camel@haggis |
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On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 01:06, Joel Rees wrote:
> (Comments from the peanut gallery here)
>
> > > > IMHO it is a bug. We don't let postgresql "guess" about a lot of more
> > > > obvious things (i.e. int4 to int8 casting, etc...) and letting it guess
> > > > about dates makes it non-ACID compliant.
> > >
> > > How do you arrive at that conclusion?
> >
> > The same way I come to all my conclusions, logic. :-) but seriously...
> >
> > Why not accept a date of 04/44/2003 and just wrap it into May? It's
> > the same kind of thing.
>
> Is it? Similar, perhaps, but at least you can be pretty sure that 44 and
> 2003 are not valid months. (Not that I want the database fixing that for
> me, either.)
>
> > I told my database where I live, and expect it to
> > only accept dates that are valid in my locale.
>
> I wouldn't suggest that. Locale is not dependable because there is
> simply no dependable way of mapping, for example, IP address to a
> physical location, much less to a cultural location.
The locale specified by the SysAdmin should be canononical.
[snip]
> Good question. Another good question is how the database would implement
> the check.
Other databases do it. It can't be *that* hard to do.
OTOH, Andrew Snow's method (alway use ANSI standard YYYY-MM-DD)
is guaranteed to work. Have your app convert to that format before
inserting, and then PostgreSQL is guaranteed to puke if there's
a problem.
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