Re: [HACKERS] WAL logging problem in 9.4.3?

From: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>
To: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(dot)dunstan(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] WAL logging problem in 9.4.3?
Date: 2018-07-12 14:12:21
Message-ID: 08b11907-d0b2-c396-2978-ba5aac1972df@iki.fi
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On 12/07/18 16:51, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>
>
> On 07/10/2018 11:32 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 05:35:58PM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
>>> Thanks for picking this up!
>>>
>>> (I hope this gets through the email filters this time, sending a shell
>>> script seems to be difficult. I also trimmed the CC list, if that helps.)
>>>
>>> On 04/07/18 07:59, Michael Paquier wrote:
>>>> Hence I propose the patch attached which disables the TRUNCATE and COPY
>>>> optimizations for two cases, which are the ones actually causing
>>>> problems. One solution has been presented by Simon here for COPY, which
>>>> is to disable the optimization when there are no blocks on a relation
>>>> with wal_level = minimal:
>>>> https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CANP8+jKN4V4MJEzFN_iEtdZ+1oM=YETxvmuu1YK4UMXQY2gaGw@mail.gmail.com
>>>> For back-patching, I find that really appealing.
>>> This fails in the case that there are any WAL-logged changes to the table
>>> while the COPY is running. That can happen at least if the table has an
>>> INSERT trigger, that performs operations on the same table, and the COPY
>>> fires the trigger. That scenario is covered by the little bash script I
>>> posted earlier in this thread
>>> (https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/55AFC302.1060805%40iki.fi) Attached
>>> is a new version of that script, updated to make it work with v11.
>> Thanks for the pointer. My tap test has been covering two out of the
>> three scenarios you have in your script. I have been able to convert
>> the extra as the attached, and I have added as well an extra test with
>> TRUNCATE triggers. So it seems to me that we want to disable the
>> optimization if any type of trigger are defined on the relation copied
>> to as it could be possible that these triggers work on the blocks copied
>> as well, for any BEFORE/AFTER and STATEMENT/ROW triggers. What do you
>> think?
>
> Yeah, this seems like the only sane approach.

Doesn't have to be a trigger, could be a CHECK constraint, datatype
input function, etc. Admittedly, having a datatype input function that
inserts to the table is worth a "huh?", but I'm feeling very confident
that we can catch all such cases, and some of them might even be sensible.

- Heikki

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