Re: Has anyone run on the new G5 yet

From: "Fred Moyer" <fred(at)redhotpenguin(dot)com>
To: "'Sean Shanny'" <shannyconsulting(at)earthlink(dot)net>, <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Has anyone run on the new G5 yet
Date: 2003-12-03 22:35:45
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> We are running into issues with IO saturation obviously. Since this
> thing is only going to get bigger we are looking for some advice on
> how to accommodate DB's of this size.
<snip>
> Second and more radical, has anyone run
> postgreSQL on the new Apple G5 with an XRaid system? This seems like
> a great value combination. Fast CPU, wide bus, Fibre Channel IO,
> 2.5TB all for ~17k.
<snip>
If you are going for I/O performance you are best off with one of the
Xserve competitors listed at http://www.apple.com/xserve/raid/. The
Xserve is based on IDE drives which have a lower seek time (say 8.9 ms)
compared to scsi (3.6 ms for seagate cheetah). For small random
read/write operations (like databases) this will give you a noticable
improvement in performance over ide drives. Also make sure to get as
many drives as possible, more spindles equals better I/O performance.

> I keep see references to terabyte postgreSQL installations, I was
> wondering if anyone on this list is in charge of one of those and can
> offer some advice on how to position ourselves hardware wise.

I've gone to about half terabyte size and all I can say is you should
plan for at least one quarter to one half a rack of drivespace (assuming
14 drives per 4u that's 42 to 84 drives). Do yourself a favor and get
more rather than less, you will really appreciate it. I averaged about
2 mb/s average per drive via the raid controller stats on 14 drive array
during I/O bound seek and update operations in 2 raid 10 arrays (half
xlogs and half data). That comes out to around 2 hours for a terabyte
with 70 drives assuming a constant scaling. You may be able to get more
or less depending on your setup and query workload.

> Thanks.
>
> --sean
>
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