Re: Should we add debug_parallel_query=regress to CI?

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Should we add debug_parallel_query=regress to CI?
Date: 2025-03-05 17:16:20
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Hi,

On 2025-03-05 11:19:46 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> writes:
> > Post-commit issues due to debug_parallel_query=regress seem rather common,
> > surely not helped by CI/cfbot not flagging them. I wonder if we ought to make
> > one of the CI tasks use debug_parallel_query=regress, to avoid that problem?
>
> Yeah, it certainly seems like a test coverage gap.

I decided to use freebsd, as it's a relatively fast task. Additionally I
thought it might be interesting to do this testing on the test run that also
does debug_write_read_parse_plan_trees etc.

I tested it by intentionally not including the revert, and it indeed finds the
problem (not that that was really in doubt, but it seemed worth verifying).

https://cirrus-ci.com/task/5782413399293952?logs=test_world#L214

> However, we seem to be moving towards a situation where each type of CI run
> is a special snowflake that differs in multiple dimensions from other types.
> That might make it difficult to figure out which dimension is responsible
> for a particular failure.

True, but I don't really see an alternative. Having dedicated tasks for
testing just debug_parallel_query=regress (and about half a dozen other
things) on their own seems like a *lot* of resource usage for the gain.

> (OTOH, the same can be said of the buildfarm, and we've survived
> regardless. So maybe I'm worried over nothing.)

The alternative seems to be to figure out the problem after commit, with
similar issues, as you point out. I'd much rather have to spend a minute
analyzing why one task triggers an issue than doing so under pressure after
commit.

I guess we could be add a "standardized" section at the top of each task
describing their oddities? Not sure it's worth it.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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