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Re: [GENERAL] JDBC: logical replication and LSN feedback

From:	"Yason TR" <yason(dot)tr(at)gmx(dot)com>
To:	"Dave Cramer" <pg(at)fastcrypt(dot)com>
Cc:	"Achilleas Mantzios" <achill(at)matrix(dot)gatewaynet(dot)com>, "pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>, List <pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	Re: [GENERAL] JDBC: logical replication and LSN feedback
Date:	2017-09-20 13:01:19
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<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: 12.0px;"><div>Thanks, I did not realize that acknowledgements are delayed until the next forceUpdateStatus() call. From the javadocs, I understood that the a read() call also does a forceUpdateStatus() internally, so a manual forceUpdateStatus() is not required. Maybe a forceUpdateStatus() only happens during a read() when the read() effectively received some messages?</div>

<div>I will start my experiments again and let you know.</div>

<div>Kind regards,</div>

<div>Yason TR</div>

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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 2:22 PM<br/>
<b>From:</b> "Dave Cramer" <pg(at)fastcrypt(dot)com><br/>
<b>To:</b> "Yason TR" <yason(dot)tr(at)gmx(dot)com><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> "Achilleas Mantzios" <achill(at)matrix(dot)gatewaynet(dot)com>, "pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>, List <pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org><br/>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GENERAL] JDBC: logical replication and LSN feedback</div>

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First off you are going to get considerably better response from the JDBC list or our github project.

<div>Looking at the code; in order to ensure the backend has received the acknowledgement you need to call <span style="color: rgb(0,0,0);font-family: Menlo;font-size: 9.0pt;">forceUpdateStatus</span></div>

<div><span style="color: rgb(0,0,0);font-family: Menlo;font-size: 9.0pt;">Otherwise it may not receive the ack</span></div>

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<div class="gmail_quote">On 19 September 2017 at 07:53, Yason TR <span><<a href="mailto:yason(dot)tr(at)gmx(dot)com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='yason(dot)tr(at)gmx(dot)com'; return false;" target="_blank">yason(dot)tr(at)gmx(dot)com</a>></span> wrote:

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<div>Should we read "In the event that replication has been restarted, it's will start from last successfully processed LSN that was sent via feedback to database." that this last succesfully event will be included (again) after a restart of the replication, or that the next event starting from the this last successfully event will be sent?</div>

<div>I would expect the second, as this makes the most sense (because the consumers only want each event once), but I am not sure.</div>

<div><span>Thanks a lot and kind regards,</span></div>

<div><span>Yason TR</span></div>

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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GENERAL] JDBC: logical replication and LSN feedback</div>

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<div>On 19/09/2017 16:37, Yason TR wrote:<br/>
> Hi all,<br/>
><br/>
> I am developing an application which connects to a logical replication slot, to consume the WAL events. These WAL events are then forwarded to a MQ broker.<br/>
><br/>
> The heart of the code can be seen as:<br/>
><br/>
> while (true) {<br/>
> Connection connection = null;<br/>
> PGReplicationStream stream = null;<br/>
><br/>
> try {<br/>
> connection = DriverManager.getConnection("jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/db", properties);<br/>
> stream = connection.unwrap(PGConnection.class).getReplicationAPI().replicationStream().logical().withSlotName("slot").start();<br/>
><br/>
> while (true) {<br/>
> final ByteBuffer buffer = stream.read();<br/>
><br/>
> // ... MQ logic here ... omitted ...<br/>
><br/>
> stream.setAppliedLSN(stream.getLastReceiveLSN());<br/>
> stream.setFlushedLSN(stream.getLastReceiveLSN());<br/>
> }<br/>
> } catch (final SQLException e) {<br/>
> // ... log exception ... omitted ...<br/>
> } finally {<br/>
> // ... close stream and connection ... omitted ...<br/>
> }<br/>
> }<br/>
><br/>
> I notice some behavior which I cannot explain and would like to understand so I can alter my code:<br/>
><br/>
> - When I restart the application, I notice that the application is retrieving the last event from the previous run again. The result is that this event is sent twice to the MQ broker after a restart of the application. Why is that? Isn't calling `setAppliedLSN(stream.getLastReceiveLSN())` and/or `setFlushedLSN(stream.getLastReceiveLSN())` enough to acknowledge an event, so it will removed from the WAL log and it will not be resent?<br/>
><br/>
> - When receiving an event, the corresponding LSN from that event (which is sent in the payload) is not the same as the result of `stream.getLastReceivedLSN()`. Why is that? Which one should I use? Maybe this is correlated to my first question.<br/>
><br/>
> - What is the difference between `setAppliedLSN(LSN)` and `setFlushedLSN(LSN)`? The Javadocs are not really helpful here.<br/>
<br/>
The stages of a wal location generally go like : sent -> write -> flush -> replay , at least in terms of physical replication.<br/>
I guess applied=replayed ?<br/>
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Note that from the docs : <a href="https://jdbc.postgresql.org/documentation/head/replication.html#logical-replication" target="_blank">https://jdbc.postgresql.org/documentation/head/replication.html#logical-replication</a><br/>
it says :<br/>
"<br/>
In the event that replication has been restarted, it's will start from last successfully processed LSN that was sent via feedback to database.<br/>
"<br/>
<br/>
><br/>
> FYI, I also asked this question on <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46301578/postgres-jdbc-logical-replication-lsn-feedback" target="_blank">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46301578/postgres-jdbc-logical-replication-lsn-feedback</a>.<br/>
><br/>
> Thanks a lot and kind regards,<br/>
><br/>
> Yason TR<br/>
><br/>
><br/>
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