Re: BackgroundPsql swallowing errors on windows

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: BackgroundPsql swallowing errors on windows
Date: 2025-03-09 16:47:34
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Hi,

On 2025-02-16 17:52:36 -0800, Noah Misch wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 08:42:50PM -0500, Andres Freund wrote:
> > On February 16, 2025 7:50:18 PM EST, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> > >Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com> writes:
> > >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 06:18:44PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> > >>> I think that
> > >>> IPC::Run may be screwing up here, because I have seen non-Windows
> > >>> CI failures that look like it didn't read all the stderr output.
> > >>> For example, this pgbench test failure on macOS from [1]:
> > >
> > >> https://github.com/cpan-authors/IPC-Run/commit/2128df3bbcac7e733ac46302c4b1371ffb88fe14
> > >> fixed that one.
> > >
> > >Ah. Do we know whether that fix has made it into our CI images?
> > >(Or anywhere else, for that matter?)
> >
> > The CI images are regenerated three times a week, but for most OSs, they will only install perl modules via the applicable packaging method, so it'll depend on when they pick up that version.
> >
> > On Windows cpan is used, so it should pick that new version fairly quickly if a release has been made.
> >
> > On macos we can't currently use images, so we just cache all the installed
> > macports packages. The cache is keyed by OS version and list of packages
> > to be installed, with no other forced invalidation right now. So it's hard
> > to predict when a new version of a package will be picked up and it will
> > differ between git repositories. I've been wondering whether the cached
> > macports install should just be regularly generated instead, along the
> > other ci images.
>
> The change is not in a release yet. We could have macos install IPC::Run from
> github, or I could get a release cut so it can make its way to macports.

It'd be great if we could get a release. I guess I can figure out the magic
incantations to install it from git for CI, but that doesn't help every
individual developer encountering this issue. Only a release can eventually do
that...

I just hit it twice in an hour or so, once on CI and once locally on a mac
mini when trying to reproduce a separate issue.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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