Re: index file bloating still in 7.4 ?

From: Seum-Lim Gan <slgan(at)lucent(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com, pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: index file bloating still in 7.4 ?
Date: 2003-10-19 14:46:08
Message-ID: p05100313bbb852b0fe68@[192.168.10.52]
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Hi Tom,

Thanks for info. I stoped the update and removed the process that's doing
the update and did vacuum analyze. This time the result says
the index row has been removed :

vacuum verbose analyze dsperf_rda_or_key;
INFO: vacuuming "scncraft.dsperf_rda_or_key"
INFO: index "dsperf242_1105" now contains 300000 row versions in 12387 pages
DETAIL: 3097702 index row versions were removed.
0 index pages have been deleted, 0 are currently reusable.
CPU 2.86s/25.49u sec elapsed 54.16 sec.
INFO: "dsperf_rda_or_key": removed 3097702 row versions in 53726 pages
DETAIL: CPU 6.29s/26.05u sec elapsed 78.23 sec.
INFO: "dsperf_rda_or_key": found 3097702 removable, 300000
nonremovable row versions in 58586 pages
DETAIL: 0 dead row versions cannot be removed yet.
There were 5 unused item pointers.
0 pages are entirely empty.
CPU 10.23s/53.79u sec elapsed 135.78 sec.
INFO: analyzing "scncraft.dsperf_rda_or_key"
INFO: "dsperf_rda_or_key": 58586 pages, 3000 rows sampled, 176830
estimated total rows
VACUUM

However, when I check the disk space usage, it has not changed.
Before and after the vacuum, it stayed the same :

/pg 822192 21% Sun Oct 19 09:34:25 CDT 2003
table /pg/data/base/17139/34048 Size=479936512 (relfilenode for table)
index /pg/data/base/17139/336727 Size=101474304 (relfilenode for index)

Any idea here ?

Another question, if we have a process that has different threads trying
to update PostgreSQL, is this going to post a problem if we do not have
the thread-safety option during configure ?

Thanks.

Gan

At 1:48 am -0400 2003/10/19, Tom Lane wrote:
>Seum-Lim Gan <slgan(at)lucent(dot)com> writes:
>> INFO: vacuuming "craft.dsperf_rda_or_key"
>> INFO: index "hello242_1105" now contains 1792276 row versions in 6237 pages
>> DETAIL: 0 index pages have been deleted, 0 are currently reusable.
>> CPU 0.61s/0.36u sec elapsed 17.92 sec.
>> INFO: "hello_rda_or_key": found 0 removable, 1791736 nonremovable
>> row versions in 30892 pages
>> DETAIL: 1492218 dead row versions cannot be removed yet.
>
>You still haven't got an index-bloat problem. I am, however, starting
>to wonder why you have so many dead-but-unremovable rows. I think you
>must have some client process that's been holding an open transaction
>for a long time.
>
> regards, tom lane

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