Re: PostgreSQL advocacy

From: Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater(at)gmx(dot)net>
To: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL advocacy
Date: 2016-03-21 14:57:29
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Mark Morgan Lloyd schrieb am 21.03.2016 um 14:44:
> I was discussing this sort of thing elsewhere in the context of MS's
> apparent challenge to Oracle and IBM, and the dominant feeling
> appeared to be that actual use of things like Oracle RAC was
> vanishingly uncommon. Which surprised me, and which I'm treating with
> caution since the fact that facilities aren't used (in a certain
> population of developers etc.) can in no way be interpreted as
> meaning that the technology is not unavailable or unreliable.

RAC is usually used for high-availability not for (horizontal) scaling.

All nodes in a RAC cluster share the same I/O system. So I/O is still the bottleneck and you can't use a RAC to scale a system that is I/O bound.

Back in the days when RAC was introduced multi-core, multi-CPU servers weren't that common (and and way fewer CPUs as high-servers today) and for systems like that, RAC _can_ indeed be used to scale the system.

And the cache synchronization across the nodes can quickly become a *serious* bottleneck if the application isn't really designed for it.
I have seen misbehaving applications that would cause Oracle to spent over 30% of its processing time only with sending blocks back and forth between the nodes.

So - at least as far as I can tell - it's usually only used where high-availability is really important, e.g. where zero-downtime is required.
If you can live with a short downtime, a hot standby is much cheaper and probably not that much slower.

See e.g. here: http://www.sdmc.nl/YouProbablyDontNeedRACUSVersion.pdf
and here: http://nyoug.org/Presentations/2006/September_NYC_Metro_Meeting/200609Zito_You%20Probably%20DO%20Need%20RAC.pdf

Thomas

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