From: | "Marko Kreen" <markokr(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | "Robert Treat" <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net> |
Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Decibel! <decibel(at)decibel(dot)org>, "Martijn van Oosterhout" <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org>, "Gregory Stark" <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "Simon Riggs" <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, A(dot)M(dot) <agentm(at)themactionfaction(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: MERGE Specification |
Date: | 2008-04-28 08:57:39 |
Message-ID: | e51f66da0804280157j5491eec0rd59ee57540b3ed52@mail.gmail.com |
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On 4/25/08, Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net> wrote:
> On Thursday 24 April 2008 23:40, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net> writes:
> > > Perhaps a better option would be to implement Merge per spec, and then
> > > implement a "replace into" command for the oltp scenario. This way you
> > > keep the spec behavior for the spec syntax, and have a clearly non-spec
> > > command for non-spec behavior.
> >
> > In that case, it's a fair question to ask just who will use the "spec"
> > syntax. As far as I can tell from years of watching the mailing lists,
> > there is plenty of demand for a concurrent-safe insert-or-update
> > behavior, and *exactly zero* demand for the other. I challenge you to
> > find even one request for the "spec" behavior in the mailing list
> > archives. (Simon doesn't count.)
> >
>
>
> AIUI the current implementation is designed to avoid race conditions partially
> at the cost of being insert friendly and somewhat update unfriendly. My guess
> is that most of the people wanting this for OLTP use want an update friendly
> implementation (that's certainly been the majority of cases I've needed
> myself, and that I have seen others use).
This seems to hint that there should be 2 variants of merge/upsert
- insert-friendly and update-friendly... It seems unlikely one implementation
can be both. And especially bad would be implementation that is neither.
--
marko
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