From: | Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at> |
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To: | Dominique Devienne <ddevienne(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Non-Stored Generated Columns |
Date: | 2024-02-29 10:58:31 |
Message-ID: | e1cd5d6513d56c1005970eb6f333b5810de082a1.camel@cybertec.at |
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On Thu, 2024-02-29 at 10:55 +0100, Dominique Devienne wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 10:03 AM Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at> wrote:
>
> Honestly, I'm not sure why supporting the non-stored variant of generated
> columns is so controversial...
>
> > I am sure there are some use cases for "virtual" generated columns, and
> > I don't think that a patch that tries to implement them will be rejected
> > out of hand. It's just that I don't think it is a very important feature.
>
> Fair enough. And a reaction I expected when I first posted.
> The outright rejection of it ever being useful, that's what surprised me.
I don't think anybody rejected the idea unconditionally.
But there is always a trade-off between the maintenance burden and the
usefulness of a feature. All that was said is that the usefulness is low.
> > You could use conditional indexes, but then you have to make sure that
> > the optimizer knows it can use these indexes.
>
> I'm not following. Are you saying the planner is not good at that on its own?
> I need to do something from my end???
I wasn't sure, but now I tested: a conditional index can also be used
by a cascading delete or update. So that's not a worry.
> > The sum of the sizes of these indexes shouldn't exceed the size of an
> > unconditional index by much, but they would still be more expensive:
> > each statement would have to look through all the indexes to decide
> > which ones it can use and which ones not.
>
> Something I maybe didn't make clear. The XArc virtual columns are never accessed.
Yes, they are. The query planner considers all indexes.
Yours,
Laurenz Albe
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