From: | Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com> |
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To: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Andrew Gierth <andrew(at)tao11(dot)riddles(dot)org(dot)uk> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: No longer possible to query catalogs for index capabilities? |
Date: | 2016-08-06 17:57:26 |
Message-ID: | e1514cae-2e94-5573-3e9e-c4a07e5f8048@BlueTreble.com |
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On 8/6/16 10:13 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 04:04:41PM +0100, Andrew Gierth wrote:
>>>>>>> "Bruce" == Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> writes:
>>
>> Bruce> Would it be helpful to output an array of strings representing
>> Bruce> the index definition?
>>
>> >> Why would that help, if the point is to enable programmatic access
>> >> to information?
>>
>> Bruce> I was thinking an array of strings would avoid problems in
>> Bruce> having to re-scan the output for tokens.
>>
>> OK, but that still leaves the issue of how to interpret each string,
>> yes?
>
> Yes, you still have to parse it, just not scan/tokenize it.
That's an improvement. For some scenarios maybe it's enough. But I also
don't see what's wrong with having the ability to probe for specific
capabilities. I've needed to do this for unit tests, and for some items
it's a real bear.
Trigger definitions are an example. I've done this in the past in unit
tests to ensure that a trigger was defined in a particular way. Some
data is available directly in the catalog, but getting at other info
would have required hard-coding knowledge of specific bit patterns into
the query. Instead of doing that I elected to parse
pg_get_triggerdef[1], but that's hardly satisfying either.
1: https://github.com/decibel/cat_tools/blob/master/sql/cat_tools.sql#L339
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