Re: making me love pgAdmin III

On 2017-05-20 14:23, Raymond O'Donnell wrote:
> On 20/05/17 11:17, richard(at)xentu(dot)com wrote:
>> On 2017-05-19 14:45, richard(at)xentu(dot)com wrote:
>>> On 2017-05-19 14:20, Adam Brusselback wrote:
>>>>> I seriously may go back to PostgreSQL 9.3 so that I can use pgAdmin
>>>> III until I can wean myself off the tool.
>>>> You don't have to revert your database version to use pgadmin III,
>>>> the newest release works fine with Postgres 9.6, and there is also
>>>> the
>>>> BigSQL fork of pgadmin III which as far as I know will continue to
>>>> support new releases.
>>>
>>> Could anyone clarify this for me?
>>>
>>> PostgreSQL & pgadmin are distinct projects right?
>>>
>>> I installed pgadmin 4 on a windows machine earlier this week and,
>>> leaving aside the fact that I dislike it, the installation worked.
>>> Today I tried to find out how to install pgadmin 4 on a Linux machine
>>> and I could only find installation methods that seemed to install all
>>> of postgresql, both server & client application. Is this just my
>>> misunderstanding of what's available?
>>
>> I don't think I expressed myself accurately enough in my above post.
>>
>> When I've installed postgresql previously, I think pgadmin3 was
>> installed at the same time. Certainly this was the case for a recent
>> install I did on Windows. As far as I know, until now, postgresql
>> hasn't needed python on the server. If I download the windows
>> postgresql installer, and pgadmin4 is by default included, then it
>> means python must also be getting installed.
>>
>> That's what I was concerned about when previously asking if the two
>> projects were distinct.
>
> Yes, the two projects are distinct. However, third-party PostgreSQL
> installers may bundle them - for example, the Windows one from
> EnterpriseDB installs pgAdmin too (or at least it used to - I haven't
> used Windows since before pgAdmin 4 was released, so my information
> may be out of date).
>
>> Somebody please correct me, if in fact, even the server component
>> requires python. Seems like bloat otherwise.
>
> No, the server is written in C so it doesn't require Python (unless of
> course you're using PL/Python).
>
> Ray.
>
> --
> Raymond O'Donnell :: Galway :: Ireland
> rod(at)iol(dot)ie

Thanks for the clarification Ray, that's the answer I was hoping for.

So, it really doesn't matter if the pgadmin developers go off in some
fresh direction. I like to work with multiple windows all open at the
same time, and like the snappy feel of a native application. I usually
use several tools & editors at once, of which talking to a database in
sql is the simplest. I therefore want a database tool taking up the
least possible screen space.

If pgadmin is no longer that tool, plenty of others are available.