From: | Serge Rielau <serge(at)rielau(dot)com> |
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To: | Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com> |
Cc: | Corey Huinker <corey(dot)huinker(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Vitaly Burovoy <vitaly(dot)burovoy(at)gmail(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Fast AT ADD COLUMN with DEFAULTs |
Date: | 2016-10-15 17:51:07 |
Message-ID: | d9b248b6-5c59-43e0-ab43-f22d4b09027e@rielau.com |
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This feature was added in DB2 year ago. AFAIK it was not very successful.
Regular compression techniques proved serve a broader and purpose and save
more space.
http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSEPGG_9.7.0/com.ibm.db2.luw.admin.dbobj.doc/doc/c0056482.html
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On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 09:10, Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com> wrote:
On 10/9/16 11:02 PM, Corey Huinker wrote:
>
> There's actually another use case here that's potentially extremely
> valuable for warehousing and other "big data": compact
> representation of a default value.
>
>
> I too would benefit from tables having either a default value in the
> event of a NOT-NULL column being flagged null, or a flat-out constant.
>
> This would be a big win in partitioned tables where the partition can
> only hold one value of the partitioning column.
I hadn't thought of that use case... with rowcounts in the billions
becoming pretty common even the cost of a 4 byte enum starts to add up.
> I guess a constant would be a pg_type where the sole value is encoded,
> and the column itself is stored like an empty string.
Not empty string; the storage would look like NULL does today; the
difference being that we'd know that attribute wasn't NULL-able so if
it's marked as being "NULL" it actually means it has the default value.
Though obviously this would only work if the default was a Const, and
you wouldn't be able to change the default without ensuring no rows in
the table were using this trick. But I suspect there's still plenty of
scenarios where the advantage is worth it.
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