From: | Scott Mead <scott(dot)lists(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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To: | Nikolas Everett <nik9000(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | jd <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, pgsql-performance <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Michael Clemmons <glassresistor(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: 8.4.1 ubuntu karmic slow createdb |
Date: | 2009-12-11 21:59:43 |
Message-ID: | d3ab2ec80912111359s47925b0dl7ce54b849767bacc@mail.gmail.com |
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Nikolas Everett <nik9000(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
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> Fair enough. I'm of the opinion that developers need to have their unit
> tests run fast. If they aren't fast then your just not going to test as
> much as you should. If your unit tests *have* to createdb then you have to
> do whatever you have to do to get it fast. It'd probably be better if unit
> tests don't create databases or alter tables at all though.
>
> Regardless of what is going on on your dev box you really should leave
> fsync on on your continuous integration, integration test, and QA machines.
> They're what your really modeling your production on anyway.
>
The other common issue is that developers running with something like
'fsync=off' means that they have completely unrealistic expectations of the
performance surrounding something. If your developers see that when fsync
is on, createdb takes x seconds vs. when it's off, then they'll know that
basing their entire process on that probably isn't a good idea. When
developers think something is lightning, they tend to base lots of stuff on
it, whether it's production ready or not.
--Scott
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