Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction

From: Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>
To: Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Daniel Verite <daniel(at)manitou-mail(dot)org>
Cc: Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andrew Gierth <andrew(at)tao11(dot)riddles(dot)org(dot)uk>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Sandro Santilli <strk(at)kbt(dot)io>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Regina Obe <lr(at)pcorp(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction
Date: 2023-05-24 16:31:42
Message-ID: ced6a5d0-e414-63cd-c8f4-6efe74cf4334@joeconway.com
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On 5/24/23 11:39, Jeff Davis wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-05-22 at 22:09 +0200, Daniel Verite wrote:
>> In practice we're probably getting the "und" ICU locale whereas "fr"
>> would be appropriate.
>
> This is a good point and illustrates that ICU is not a drop-in
> replacement for libc in all cases.
>
> I don't see a solution here that doesn't involve some rough edges,
> though. "Locale" is a generic term, and if we continue to insist that
> it really means a libc locale, then ICU will never be on an equal
> footing with libc, let alone the preferred provider.

Huge +1

IMHO the experience should be unified to the degree possible.

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Joe Conway
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
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