From: | Fabien COELHO <coelho(at)cri(dot)ensmp(dot)fr> |
---|---|
To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Jeevan Ladhe <jeevan(dot)ladhe(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Developers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: pgbench more operators & functions |
Date: | 2016-10-04 18:12:32 |
Message-ID: | alpine.DEB.2.20.1610041941150.24533@lancre |
Views: | Raw Message | Whole Thread | Download mbox | Resend email |
Thread: | |
Lists: | pgsql-hackers |
Hello Robert,
> I think it's pretty clear that this patch is not Ready for Committer,
As a reviewer, I do not know when to decide to put something as "ready".
My opinion is that it is a matter of the reviewer to decide. Whether some
consensus is actually reached, or whether a committer is going to disagree
later on, cannot be helped.
> because there's no consensus that we want this, and like Tom and
> Stephen, I'd argue that there are large parts of it we don't want.
> The documentation in the latest patch version mentions XOR and IF
> which we definitely don't want because there is no similar thing in
> SQL,
I have removed these and put CASE WHEN THEN ELSE END instead in v6.
> but in addition to that, I don't think much of an argument has
> been made that any of this is actually useful.
In the TPC-B benchmark, some conditional is needed because under some
probability an account must be chosen in the *same* branch as the teller,
otherwise in the *other* branches.
> I'm skeptical about the notion that giving pgbench a vast repertoire of
> mathematical functions is a good idea. What does that actually let us
> do that is useful and not possible today?
I do not see a vast "repertoire" of functions. There are "usual" int
operators, logical operators, and a few functions.
About the one added in this patch:
bitwise operations: I have seen some use to create a non uniform random
from a random one. Once one operator is put in, there is no reason not to
put the others...
exp & ln: could be used to tweak distributions.
conditional: see above.
I have not put trigonometric functions because I could not think of a
use in a benchmarking context.
> I'm happy to see pgbench made better in a variety of ways, but I don't
> really see why that particular thing is useful. Perhaps I'm just
> missing something.
I'm trying to add features that are IMO useful for benchmarking.
When doing so, someone says "hay, you put a double expression, you must
put double variables". Although I can see the point of double expressions
for passing ints into some transformations, I can't see a double variable
really useful in any benchmark, but there it is, it is a side effect of
the process, and it is somehow to have orthogonal features.
--
Fabien.
From | Date | Subject | |
---|---|---|---|
Next Message | Jeff Janes | 2016-10-04 18:25:24 | Re: Cache Hash Index meta page. |
Previous Message | Robert Haas | 2016-10-04 17:50:37 | Re: Question / requests. |