Re: How about a psql backslash command to show GUCs?

From: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com>, Christoph Berg <myon(at)debian(dot)org>, Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, Mark Dilger <mark(dot)dilger(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Developers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: How about a psql backslash command to show GUCs?
Date: 2022-04-12 19:40:49
Message-ID: a93f754c-e020-b330-9104-d8f3ce6ea654@postgresql.org
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On 4/12/22 1:00 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org> writes:
>> On 4/12/22 11:19 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> It'd just look like this, I think. I see from looking at guc.c that
>>> boot_val can be NULL, so we'd better use IS DISTINCT FROM.
>
>> I tested it and I like this a lot better, at least it's much more
>> consolidated. They all seem to be generated (directories, timezones,
>> collations/encodings).
>
> Yeah, most of what shows up in a minimally-configured installation is
> postmaster-computed settings like config_file, rather than things
> that were actually set by the DBA. Personally I'd rather hide the
> ones that have source = 'override', but that didn't seem to be the
> consensus.

The list seems more reasonable now, though now that I'm fully in the
"less is more" camp based on the "non-defaults" description, I think
anything we can do to further prune is good.

>> The one exception to this seems to be "max_stack_depth", which is
>> rendering on my "\dconfig" though I didn't change it, an it's showing
>> it's default value of 2MB. "boot_val" says 100, "reset_val" says 2048,
>> and it's commented out in my postgresql.conf. Do we want to align that?
>
> I don't think there's any principled thing we could do about that in
> psql. The boot_val is a conservatively small 100kB, but we crank
> that up automatically based on getrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK), so on any
> reasonable platform it's going to show as not being default.

Got it.

We may be at a point where it's "good enough" and let more people chime
in during beta.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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