Re: Question on full vacuum clearing waste space

From: Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
To: Wenjun Che <wenjun(at)openfin(dot)co>, pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Question on full vacuum clearing waste space
Date: 2020-06-07 16:08:25
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On 6/7/20 6:06 AM, Wenjun Che wrote:
> Thank you for the quick response.
>
> I ran the script from
> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Show_database_bloat, which shows
> "app_event_users" table has 3751936 as wastedbytes.

https://bucardo.org/check_postgres/check_postgres.pl.html#bloat

"Please note that the values computed by this action are not precise,
and should be used as a guideline only. Great effort was made to
estimate the correct size of a table, but in the end it is only an
estimate. The correct index size is even more of a guess than the
correct table size, but both should give a rough idea of how bloated
things are."

>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:32 AM Mohamed Wael Khobalatte
> <mkhobalatte(at)grubhub(dot)com <mailto:mkhobalatte(at)grubhub(dot)com>> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 11:24 PM Wenjun Che <wenjun(at)openfin(dot)co
> <mailto:wenjun(at)openfin(dot)co>> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I am testing full vacuum with pg 10.10 on AWS RDS.  I noticed
> for some tables, the number of waste bytes stays at a few MB
> after I run full vacuum.  I double-checked that there are no
> long running transactions, no orphaned prepared transactions and
> no abandoned replication slots.
>
> Here is output from full vacuum for one of the tables:
>
> VACUUM(FULL, ANALYZE, VERBOSE) app_events_users
> vacuuming "app_events_users"
> "app_events_users": found 0 removable, 1198881 nonremovable row
> versions in 13369 pages
> analyzing "licensing.app_events_users"
> "app_events_users": scanned 13369 of 13369 pages, containing
> 1198881 live rows and 0 dead rows; 30000 rows in sample, 1198881
> estimated total rows
>
> What else can prevent full vacuum from reclaiming all waste space ?
>
> Thank you
>
>
> What "waste query" are you running? Those tend to be estimates only.
> Vacuum Full clearly did its job from that log you shared.
>
>
>
> --
> Wenjun Che
> VP of Engineering | OpenFin
> wenjun(at)openfin(dot)co <mailto:wenjun(at)openfin(dot)co>
>
> *Move Fast.  Break Nothing.*
> www.openfin.co <http://www.openfin.co> | @openfintech

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